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Judge Rules Against Obama Objectors

An effort to have President Barack Obama's name removed from New Jersey's primary ballot was dealt a setback following an administrative judge's recent ruling.

In what attorney Mario Apuzzo is calling a "sham of justice," a state judge has ruled against objectors seeking to remove President Barack Obama's name from New Jersey's upcoming primary ballot.

According to Apuzzo, the attorney representing , Deputy Director and Administrative Law Judge Jeff Masin ruled against the ballot challenge following a more than three-hour hearing earlier this week. His decision, delivered to Apuzzo via email, was not based on the issues presented in the challenge, namely that Obama is not a natural born citizen of the United States and that a birth certificate released by the White House last April is fraudulent, but rather on a technicality, Apuzzo said.

The judge ruled that Obama's place on the ballot could not be removed by challenge because Obama, as president, automatically appears on the ballot and without his consent. Thus, Obama cannot be held immediately responsible for proving his eligibility. Apuzzo filed an exception and the matter was passed along to New Jersey Secretary of State Kim Guadagno who will have to make the final determination at this stage.

Should Guadagno uphold the court's decision, Apuzzo said he would file an appeal.

"The sham continues. In one way or another it's a sham of justice. Our judiciary is really taking us for a ride," Apuzzo said during a telephone interview Thursday. "How can they expect us to do something that the law doesn't allow for (challenging Obama's place on the ballot)? The logic is unbelievable."

Purpura, of Wall Township, and Moran, a Toms River resident, filed a challenge alleging that Obama has both failed to show proof that he was born in the U.S. and is not a natural born citizen because both of his parents are not U.S. citizens. According to the Constitution, Apuzzo charges, Obama is ineligible to serve as the country's president and should not appear on the state's June 5 primary ballot.

Obama was represented by Alexandra Hill of the Newark-based law firm Genova, Burn and Giantomasi.

What struck Apuzzo, he said, was not just the judge's decision, but a concession made by Hill that the court has no documented evidence of Obama's birth. Armed with a number of witnesses, including an expert who was willing to testify that Obama's birth certificate, posted online in April 2011 by the White House, was fraudulent, Apuzzo was instead told to holster his guns.

"We were willing to present that what's online has been manipulated by computer, human, or both and that it's not reliable. I told them I was ready to prove that and if they didn't want this witness to testify then concede that," he said. "I got Obama (Obama's attorney Hill) to concede that there is no evidence before the court as to his place of birth, which includes what's on the internet."

Though the judge ruled the Obama isn't required to prove his ballot eligibility, Apuzzo considers the concession a win of sorts, one he hopes will help his case gain traction should it appear before an appellate court. He stressed that he's willing to go as far as he can to prove that Obama does not belong on the state's ballot. Should that mean taking the case to the State Supreme Court or the U.S. Supreme Court, Apuzzo said he's ready.

monster April 17, 2012 at 04:06 AM
And Ed you just need to go on and shut up. WHAT about the innocent babes that were sent off to a war, that had little to do with 9/11, he wanted vengeance. Well now he has it. Along with whole countries that hate Americans.
monster April 17, 2012 at 04:22 AM
So you don't see the difference between a woman asking to be murdered, and a life form that has of yet no conscious thought? Also you state that "these babes are lying in the trash can dying after having been aborted". You called the fetuses baby women. You say if it were an animals everybody would be out there people would be up in arms. Well apparently Baby women have you. I just wish all of you would stop trying to decide what to do with my va-ga-nay. I got this covered. I'm done, I think your a little weird, well lots actually. Still haven't answered about how many cats you have. I could send ours to you. He has unpleasant disposition. I know it's probably my librel Obama loving commie friends that are to blame for boom boom be evil.
Ed Brotherton April 17, 2012 at 04:36 AM
Im done debating with stupid people. I find all that will happen is they will drag me down to their level and beat me with their experience.
monster April 17, 2012 at 04:39 AM
My post are for my enjoyment. Too realize that those of you say you have plenty of black friends and your not a racist? Face it we ALL have prejudices, we all have a hard time trusting a black man to hang out with you and something goes missing, your telling me that no one would at the black man and suggest maybe he might have it. Thats okay were all friends. Next time that you go into a bar that is predominately white. Look for the minorites. There some wait staff that are working in the kitchen, bus boys. Ask him where is the closest exit to from where you stand next to him, bet you he knows where it is. As a person who has dealt with a cornucopia of reactions to how I look, why is my hair so soft, you don't talk like the other black people. Your right there is no way this is you. I'm quitting this one 2. Peace People I'm out.
Ed Brotherton April 17, 2012 at 05:07 AM
You're right Monster those innocent babies that were sent off to war is bullshit. You seem to think that just because I think Obama is a fraud that you think I support the war and like Bush. Can't be further from the truth. Like I said in my other posts. I'm waaayyyy beyond the left right paradigm in fact I'm so over that shit it would take most a lifetime to catch up with me. BTW all life whether it be a cell or a human being has consciousness to one degree or another. Keep this in mind. There are only two laws in this world. Do no harm. And Honor your agreements. We can get along pretty well in this world if we simply lived by those two laws. Everything else is pretty BS.
djsga April 18, 2012 at 01:41 PM
I have a question about this. If you were going to the power company to prove that you had the right to turn on the power at your new home, would you go into the office without any documentation proving what you were claiming?
djsga April 18, 2012 at 01:47 PM
Personally, I do not care what race is in the office. It is not a matter of race, but a matter of legality. I am saddened that too many people turn this into a race issue when it is not. The office of President should unify the country. Over the course of my life, the men who have held that office seem to spiral the country even further into division.
Dorris Ponstingl April 18, 2012 at 01:52 PM
Talk about How JUDGES can be bought ,here is a good example. Looks like , " WE THE PEOPLE " Better step up to the plate.NOW.
Swalt Conserv April 18, 2012 at 02:16 PM
Typical liberal comments from all you race baiters. Dodge the truth by attacking, as outlined in Saul Alinsky's "Rules For Radicals." He dedicated his rule book to Satan. He spent years doing ride alongs with Al Capone's hitmen, partying with them, etc. And your Messiah taught a class on Alinsky and his book in college. Good God what a bunch of misfit morons you liberals are!
Joe R April 18, 2012 at 05:05 PM
Bill Moyers on Saul Alinsky: "And now, a word about a good American being demonized, despite being long dead. Saul Alinsky is not around to defend himself, but that hasn't kept Newt Gingrich from using his name to whip up the froth and frenzy of his followers, whose ignorance of the man is no deterrence to their eagerness, at Gingrich's behest, to tar and feather him posthumously." Alinsky didn't dedicate the book to Satan, he just said that Lucifer was the first rebel or radical, it was a literary reference. He's hardly a luciferite or satanist. Geez, can it get any stupider.
Joe R April 18, 2012 at 05:18 PM
In 1969, Saul Alinsky received the Pacem in Terris Peace and Freedom Award, given annually by a coalition of Catholic groups in the Midwest to commemorate an encyclical about human rights and alternatives to war written by Pope John XXIII. Most honorees have been ardent reformers of one faith or another: Martin Luther King, Jr., Desmond Tutu, Cesar Chavez, Daniel Berrigan, and Jim Wallis are on the list—as is Lech Walesa. Mother Teresa also received this award 7 years after Alinsky. Alinsky often worked with religious groups to help the poor and disenfranchised.
monster April 19, 2012 at 01:28 AM
Ed- I have really been trying not to come back to this. I have children, I made some life decisions when I was younger that I do not regret. I guess my beef is with those who stand outside places yelling profanity to those in the building. Or the old man in my town, who instead of helping the homeless down the street, has never missed a day picketing. Or of my town with all the religious people who when they leave church, whatever the pastor, or priest or whomever is forgotten and they call their neighbors yelling at them and yes calling on Jesus to strike them down, because a tree is casting shadow on their rose bushes. Said it once, and I came back. I respect that people are so staunch in their belief system, but I find myself saddened by these posts, these rants and mostly in human kind for the kind of vitriol that is directed at the President. Yours, mine whomever. I am going to unsubscribe. Good luck to you all.
Jim K April 20, 2012 at 08:11 PM
If any doubt exists as to the eligibility of the holder of the highest office in America, the Constitution is our authority. All Americans are imperiled if indeed the President is Constitutionally ineligible. Among the many perils, a significant peril is that any of the multitude of actions executed by the office would be potentially invalid. It's scary to me to hear commenters dismissing these concerns as if the operation of our Constitution could be merely dismissed by popular opinion or by impugning the motives of the protesters. I also find it amazing that a judge would conclude that since the law only requires a certification of eligibility but does not specify any documentation requirement, eligibility cannot be challenged based on documentation, fraudulent or not. How does this serve the public interest? Hugo Chavez could run in the New Jersey Presidential Primary under that reasoning. In other words, New Jersey law states the requirements for office, but the Secretary of State has no effectual means to ensure these requirements are met. It's Twilight Zone. Sooner or later a court of competent jurisdiction will decide the core issue and until that time it is irrelevant what public opinion says, only what the Constitution says.
Anders Foxer April 21, 2012 at 01:07 PM
Yeah, a good President who is on a mission to kill the US Constitution and transfer more wealth than ever to the mega banks. I CAN'T BELIEVE how many of you refuse to see what he is up to, just because of this stupid right/left, Republican/Democrat thinking. A good President who sneaks draconian bills through on holidays and have made it illegal to peacefully demonstrate anywhere near him or his friends. Yeah, real good job. And real good job ordering a fake birth certificate to be made. Can't believe the level of denial that is going on.
Matthew April 27, 2012 at 12:40 AM
Let's just summarize, shall we: 1. Obama is not a citizen 2. Therefore anybody who voted for him is either a criminal accomplice or non compos mentis 3. Obama is a dictator who answers to Congress and the Judiciary and to the people who either want or don't want him elected 4. Obama is destroying America: he wants more pregnant illegal immigrants here so their children can vote for him [ okay, maybe we're stretching on that a bit ] 5. Before Obama became President, this country was one small step below the Garden of Eden, where only those who really, truly and deeply deserved where allowed to feed at the public trough. AND BY THE WAY, has anybody seen Obama's navel? It's not bad enough he's spent hundreds of millions of dollars that could have been spent preventing birth control; we're not even sure he's human. Let's see a navel. Let's see PROOF of his being born on earth. Don't you think it's just a wee bit scary that he's never addressed this issue. Why the silence? What does he have to hide, other than the fact that this country's being run by beings from the Andromeda Galaxy. Never mind the country turning socialist, we need to prevent us from being hors d'oeuvres. LET'S SEE THAT NAVEL, OBAMA.
Matthew April 27, 2012 at 12:46 AM
It's sort of amusing. At 12:57 you're done debating with stupid people. At 1:53 you're debating again. "I'm not debating," you'll say, "I'm just making an observation." Yep, just makin' an ob-ser-va-tion. Kinda makes you wonder whether ALL life, has consciousness or not [ which, by the way, you state as a fact, not as an opinion. If it's a fact, you should be able to back it up with something more than "Well, I think...." ]
monster May 29, 2012 at 03:51 PM
All of the sudden I get a bunch of posts popping up in my e-mail. I'm baack...... again that is my choice, where is the evidence that all life have a consciousness? I'm being asked for evidence, yet are you willing to show me yours? I'm not debating Matthew,you smart ass I am stating a belief I believe to be true. Just like you believe in whatever it is you believe. To the supreme IDIOT who thinks I am blasé about killing children....please go to some third world country where children are starving and malnourished, how many of them do you think are adopted? Or have you adopted 1already? Using abortion as a form of birth control is wrong on any level, just as some passer by getting to decide what I do with my body. Susan what scares the "jeepers" out of me, is that you really are calling them "baby women", really? Does that even sound odd to anyone else? Or the statement of "the pain and torture the baby women feel after they have been aborted, laying in a trash can?" yes, I know the quote is not word for word. Beyond that, huh.......? I realize you believe you are speaking up in support of all women (and of course baby women), in fact are hurting the case. Your logic is questionable, the nickname is ridiculous and you seem to like comparing apples to oranges. I really don't need or want a reply, I'm sure they will come anyway, but please stay away from my children with your beliefs, ie: nonsense. I want them to believe in Santa as long as possible.
monster May 29, 2012 at 03:57 PM
Ok, that post Matthew was pretty funny. Your right he is suspiciously quiet about his navel.....hmmmmmm. I wonder what conspiracy is being connected to the story behind the naval! Naval gate!!!
monster May 29, 2012 at 04:08 PM
Wow, your a smart one aren't ya! So Ed, your a law onto your self? You have no President, so therefore don't have to follow the rules? Will we be seeing you in the future behind a compound wall with a shotgun, married to a dozen or so women and doing a retelling of the biblical text? Shouting at the police that you" don't need no stinking lawyer", you studied up on California code. You know your rights! But aha, apparently you don't cause if you did, you'd know threatening a law enforcement officer is not a wise choice. Let's also not forget you don't have to abide by said laws. Are you an ILLEGAL? But good luck to ya!
Ed Brotherton May 29, 2012 at 09:45 PM
Monster - First of all, where do you get the idea that i threatened a law enforcement officer? Second, I don't need to hide behind a wall with a shotgun married to 10 women shouting bible scripture. (how about dropping the stereotyping). I'm out in the open and if I find a law tolerable and I'll tolerate it, if I don't find it tolerable then I won't tolerate it and I'll do my best to defend myself for those decisions. As man such as yourself with a brain and the ability to critically analyze I would hope that you have sense to do the same instead of having blind loyalty to the point of complete surrender of your own integrity. You are an elitists wet dream. You're a slave who thinks he is free. You are a psychopolitical operative, an unknowing and unwitting participant in deception by being deceived yourself. An anaconda is slowly squeezing the life out of you while this same anaconda is making sure you're plenty entertained with sports and Lady Gaga and when you're not being entertained, you're simply trying to survive. I feel sorry for you because you have been to dumped down, numb, and apathetic to realize that something is squeezing the life out of you, let alone knowing who or what it is. I know it hurts to have to admit that and you will hate me for telling you the truth, but that's ok because it's for your own good. You will thank me later unless of course you don't wake up in time and the last breath is squeezed out of you.
BobDee June 04, 2012 at 01:47 AM
who is Barry Soetoro? and should we care?
Michael June 04, 2012 at 05:45 AM
You and the birthers are the cult of the tinfoil hats. In case you don't know what that means, "Among a fringe community of paranoids, aluminum helmets serve as the protective measure of choice against invasive radio signals."
monster June 04, 2012 at 05:55 PM
Ed, my friend.... Huh? That was a whole lot of typing you did. I appreciate you looking out for me. The thing is, I don't need someone like you, or Susan looking out for me. I got it covered. No I am not some brainless idiot, who lets elitist have a wet dream at my expense. Nor will I get into a pissing contest with anyone who is still going on about birth certificates. Ed I respect the fact that you believe what you are saying. I just think at this point with all the evidence out there saying it is all on the up and up, you would move on. You don't want to, so it is as it is.
Susan June 04, 2012 at 11:53 PM
Obama loves people like Monster who he can control. Ed you are right on this society is more knowledgable about Hollywacko land then what this "President" is doing, has done and plans to do to this country. WAKE UP AMERICA! Monster do you understand what this man is doing? Just recently the NY Times broke a story about Obamas "kill" list partner this with the NDAA he signed in December 2011 and maybe you will understand the anger and fear most of us see with this man destroying our country. I encourage you to educate yourself on just these two issues alone.
monster June 05, 2012 at 03:39 AM
I just reread your opening statement, and started chuckling all over again. No, I am not heartless. I just believe in a woman's right to choose. If giving up a child is the only option, why are there so many babies from foreign countries. Do we need to take on other peoples children as well as debt. Have you actually ever crunched the numbers of homeless children, Hotel/motel children? How often to do you go down to any homeless shelter and volunteer? Have you ever looked into the eyes of a homeless person and asked their story? Are you so high and mighty that you too can't see "The Truth". Why are you so worried about everyone else business? Is there nothing else to occupy your time. He's President! He's made some really good choices and yes some bad. Gee, has any other President made errors, or thought he was doing good for the people, but it came back and bit him in the ass. Whom do you think would make a good President? Ed, I have a feeling you'll be coming back at me with your less than sound vitriol, but consider this...how many of you have the balls and/or Tatas to run for President your self? How many of you are going to come back with some silly ass comment about why your not in office? Susan, really how many cats do you have...huh baby woman?
monster June 05, 2012 at 04:00 AM
Bless your heart...you have issues. Why do YOU think anything you say is going to impact my decision making? I decide for myself and my children. You want to talk about anacondas squeezing the life out of me? The anaconda doesn't have to because my kids are doing it all by themselves. Soccer practice, dance recitals, piano recitals, Girls on the Run, play dates, homework, PTO bullsmacky, volunteering at shelters, putting meals on the table, putting grouchy kids to sleep. I LOVE my life. With all of the chaos and drama and goodnight kisses, I couldn't ask for a better life, (well unless I could do the Jedi mind trick on you.). Two laws of the land? Funny I thought there were a couple wrong, I can admit that I'm not as up to date on the birther issues. I just find it a bit hardcore to suggest its all a shame. If you read theses posts you'll see the several different interpretations of the constitution; but I'm supposed to believe what you say over anyone else. I'm very sorry, because you annoy me on every level. I know I'm not liked by most people on this site, that's okay. I tell my children daily they weren't put on this earth to be liked by everyone, nor do they need to like anyone in return. I know I'm being harsh, but your reasoning and what you believe is logical is just off, by any standard. Good night, Susan.
monster June 05, 2012 at 04:02 AM
My bad, a few misspellings, and chunky sentences. My bad.
Ed Brotherton June 05, 2012 at 06:24 AM
Monster - You ask "Why do YOU think anything you say is going to impact my decision making? It's because I assume you have the ability to critically think. Are you saying that there is nothing I can possibly say even if YOU see it as having some validity that will change your decision making? That doesn't sound healthy to me. I'm willing to change my view if someone would simply point out the actual flaw in my arguments verses attacking my character. My goal is not to invalidate you or anyone else here in anyway but just provide data so people can make up their own minds. I have looked at the many other posts on here with regards to the their interpretation of the natural born citizenship provision. Unfortunately you can tell most of the them don't know how to make distinction between natural born citizenship and U.S. Citizenship. One is a civic status while the other is a political status. Then you have those quoting the Wong Ark case which has to do with the 14th amendment citizeship and absolutely nothing to do with natural born under article 2 section 1 clause 5. My view of the natural born citizenship is not my opinion I'm relying on the Supreme Courts interpretation, historical analysis, John Jay's letter he wrote to George Washington on the issue, as well as the original intent of the framers. Is there something else I should be relying on? If so, please tell me.
Ed Brotherton June 05, 2012 at 06:29 AM
It's all good. I really wish you knew me because I honestly think you and I would get along pretty well, even if we don't agree on everything. The trouble with these posts is that you can't really emote. So things come off in ways that are not intended.
Susan June 05, 2012 at 10:25 AM
Monster it's not what I say nor "my" beliefs. I continue to suggest you educate yourself on the FACTS. If not for yourself then do it for your children. As their future is at risk of losing many of the freedoms that many men and women fought and died for in this great country. The birther issue is only one of many questionable and ethical issues that have been raised, researched and revealed about this administration. I think I annoy you because you don't want to hear the truth it is easier to live for most to live in a bubble of denial.

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